NEW GUNS FOR MN !!!! ( BB4 ), Frence bb4 have to low guns -.- Options

[Duschlape]

hi ... my problem is the Mn guns from the MN bb4 Rechiloue .... quad 15.95`` insch is to low for a bb4 and this guns don´t have big spash -.-

i hoff Rechiloue became new guns and MN need blockshoot -.- ... bb4 have 2 guns 2x Quad and you not have good guner is tis schit sry ..

and from the Rechiloue to alasce you need 22 lvls -.- and this made no fun... bb4 need better guns = more fun.
bad guns = no fun ....



sry for my bad english



so noch ma lauf deutsch so gut wie es geht .

der MN bb4 brauchte neue guns habe eig erhofft das die big spasch haben wie alle andern bb4 aber das ist nicht der fall... und von bb4 zu bb5 sind 22 lvls und das mit dne Guns , ach kommt -.- und richtig blocken tut MN auch net wie man es sich erhofft hatte


sry für Rechtschreibfehler XDD

[SeaWarLord]

Hmm... you mean a POW with BB4 range and BB5 damage?

How many battles have you made with MN BB4?

[KozzDozz]

Vanguard also has no "big spash". btw: River!

[yifanwang99]

Hmm... you mean a POW with BB4 range and BB5 damage?

How many battles have you made with MN BB4?

Actually, its more like a 42-knot POW wannabe that has H39 damage and Lion1 range.......................

[SeaWarLord]

Actually, its more like a 42-knot POW wannabe that has H39 damage and Lion1 range.......................

That's what it is right now... i said that its what he wants.... i believe that needs a boost, but not in the guns... maybe a bit more range, something like iowa...

[Thanok]

NF is (normally) historical "accurate", also in this Case. Wich means: The original Richelieu was equiped two Quad Guns, with 14,96" each, because it has been developed as the French counterpart to the German Bismarck.
I haven't seen it ingame yet, so i can't tell you anything about it's advantages, but trust me, it will have i'ts advantage (low angle, small sized, Turning Force of a Scharnhorst = Rush the enemy, hit him and run away like a little girl?).

But i agree that the Richelieu - Alsace Grind is pretty weird atm. I supose that TNF will fix it at the end of March, back to level 103.

*****Deutsch*******
NF ist (normalerweise) Histrorisch "genau", auch in diesem Falle. Das heisst: Die echte Richelieu wa mit 2 Quad-Kanonen, mit jeweils 14,96" ausgerüstet, da sie als Französiches Gegenstück zur Deutscen Bismarck entwickelt wurde.
I habe sie bisher noch nicht im Spiel gesehen, daher kann ich dir nichts über ihre vorteile sagen, aber glaub mir, sie wird ihre Vorteile haben (niedriger Winkel, klein, Turning Froce einer Scharnhorst = Rushe den Feind, treffe ihn und renn weg wie ein kleines Mädchen?).

Aber ich gebe dir recht dass der Richelieu-Alsace Grind z.Z. ziemlich verkorkst ist. I denke mal dass TNF dass Ende des Monats anpassen wird, zurück auf level 103.

[Slick]

Actually, its more like a 42-knot POW wannabe that has H39 damage and Lion1 range.......................

...and a pre-nerf IJN AA. To seriously evaluate the ship I'd suppose to play some more battles and look how the spread evolves, other BB4 with onlevel gunners have their problems too.

[stimpeltje]

Hmm, My lion2 has only triple guns, so I wan't them to be Quads. They also don't block, so I wan't blocking guns. They don't have uber range, so I wan't more range for them.


Stop whining and learn how to drive the way they made it.

[DerHeinrich]

Well, she doesn't seem to need a buff from what I've seen of Richelieu in game.

[harryg]

Well, lets see how a level 100+ Richelieu is.
I remember a level 80+ Yamato wasn't that much fun, too.

For the grinding to Alsace:
AFAIK Alsace is (inofficially) classed as BB5,5 cause there is (will be?) no BB6. If that's correct i think it's quite OK it will be available some levels later than normal BB5.

[nebrot88]

+42knt
+AA
+small size
+front guns only
+turning force


isn't that enough? when you already cry about this, and that your guns shoot like a shotgun so pls play a Sodak with at-lvl-gunners... lvl your gunners on another ship/nation. It is better to have your gunners 10 lvl over the gun (ie lvl 91 guns with lvl 100 gunners)



@harryg

I dont know why the Alsace is lvl 110, but on the korean server all bb5 are lvl 110...

[Ceahlau]

on NFNA Alsace is lvl 103, like all BB5's!

[HGAZIS]

all scream MN is underpowered

but noone has 120 MN crew to compare hips with highlvlcrew -.-

just thik about how crappy iowa, yammi, h39 and even lion1 with qlvl is

stop whining just wait

[Thanok]

at lvl H-39 is more fun then an at level Vanguard^^

Well, like i said, the Alsace level should be reduced to lvl 103 (i guess it will be reduced soon), because were are not NFKR and all the other BB5s are level 103 ships here.

@harryg: MN will get a CV6 and a BB6 but no one knows (or wants us to know) how this ships will look.

[Duschlape]

NF is (normally) historical "accurate", also in this Case. Wich means: The original Richelieu was equiped two Quad Guns, with 14,96" each, because it has been developed as the French counterpart to the German Bismarck.
I haven't seen it ingame yet, so i can't tell you anything about it's advantages, but trust me, it will have i'ts advantage (low angle, small sized, Turning Force of a Scharnhorst = Rush the enemy, hit him and run away like a little girl?).

But i agree that the Richelieu - Alsace Grind is pretty weird atm. I supose that TNF will fix it at the end of March, back to level 103.

*****Deutsch*******
NF ist (normalerweise) Histrorisch "genau", auch in diesem Falle. Das heisst: Die echte Richelieu wa mit 2 Quad-Kanonen, mit jeweils 14,96" ausgerüstet, da sie als Französiches Gegenstück zur Deutscen Bismarck entwickelt wurde.
I habe sie bisher noch nicht im Spiel gesehen, daher kann ich dir nichts über ihre vorteile sagen, aber glaub mir, sie wird ihre Vorteile haben (niedriger Winkel, klein, Turning Froce einer Scharnhorst = Rushe den Feind, treffe ihn und renn weg wie ein kleines Mädchen?).

Aber ich gebe dir recht dass der Richelieu-Alsace Grind z.Z. ziemlich verkorkst ist. I denke mal dass TNF dass Ende des Monats anpassen wird, zurück auf level 103.

yes from the MN bb4 ( lvl 89) to bb5 (110) are 21 lvl ... this like bullschit sry but this si to long. adn the bb4 are not so fast .. k have many aa gun slonts but 3 big R slots and 6 mini R or more ... i hope MN became a updat



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ja vom bb4 Rechiloue zu alace sind es 21 lvls untershcied das macht doch kein spass finde. und sehr shcnell ist die auch nicht , jaa hat vll viele aa gun slotz aber 3 große und 6 oder was weis ich kleine .. hoffe MN bekommt noch ein patch

[Legi]

richelieu goes even 26/44 with atlvl crew.

and yes the spread is really bad. if you want to compare it with sodak.. you can

but it will be better when you reached lv 100+
the onliest problem is, that there will be still a random spread...e.g: first shot you got a real fine block.. next shot is sodak@lvl.

slick:
you cant sompare the MN and IJN AA. the MN has ways less firepower on the high-range AA.

[explosion93]

The Alsace level worried me too when MN came out, so I made a ticket:

"Dear explosion93,

thank you for your report. There might be changes in the
future, yes. We will announce them via the Newsletter
and the Forum as soon as they are about to be
implemented.


Kind regards,
Toolkien
ServerHead Bismarck"


Hopefully, it'll get changed.



Also, you can't say an advantage of MN is turning force, Alsace and Rich have 19 Turning Force, just like the other BB5/4 excluding Lion1 I think.

Would have been nice if they did play something like a dunk but obviously not with 27Turnining Force

[Don_Leon]

NF is (normally) historical "accurate", also in this Case

How is NF historically accurate? lol. In no way! I could add that the hood is fat as hell etc etc... no use. I still love having it in my harbour and it's fun to play.

I also don't get this whining thread. Just wait as others say. No ship is really good at lvl.

[Duschlape]

The Alsace level worried me too when MN came out, so I made a ticket:

"Dear explosion93,

thank you for your report. There might be changes in the
future, yes. We will announce them via the Newsletter
and the Forum as soon as they are about to be
implemented.


Kind regards,
Toolkien
ServerHead Bismarck"


Hopefully, it'll get changed.


thx
Also, you can't say an advantage of MN is turning force, Alsace and Rich have 19 Turning Force, just like the other BB5/4 excluding Lion1 I think.

Would have been nice if they did play something like a dunk but obviously not with 27Turnining Force

[Slick]

slick:
you cant sompare the MN and IJN AA. the MN has ways less firepower on the high-range AA.

If you want to compare then you should take the pre-nerf IJN AA, meaning they had higher reload times by then.
Imo that was better nonetheless, as it's much harder to scout a ship with high range AA, no matter the pure DMG.
In general there are other considerations than pure dmg regarding AA, or how do you explain that nearly no UK ship has one aboard?