Hedgehog in Blitzkrieg, Hedgehog in Blitzkrieg Options

[sarion2010]

Hello,
do not you think that it is annoying when shooting other small vessels in the Hedgeho Blitzkrieg rum? Because yes Hedgehog for normalerwese submarines are not for DD's, Cl's, Ca's ...
So I thought to myself what would it be better to ship with the Hedgehog is no longer generally no longer able Blitzkrieg!
But only in greatbattles.

[ajhutchy]

i've noticed too that hedgehogs have been used in blitzkrieg, I see them as pointless unless you are in a battle with subs, why not just have torps instead.

[sarion2010]

yeh that´s a good idea

[violentduck]

They do damage. so why wouldnt anyone use them at a low lvl.

[ajhutchy]

learn to use torps instead

[OldIronsides]

HHs have far more range than torps. You can do quite some damage to other ships. So what's the problem? =P
Indeed it does not make much sense to regularly use Hedgehogs in BK, that's why nearly no one uses them regularly. What more do you need?
I use them sometimes just for fun. The same way I sometimes use one of the frigates with just two single torpedo launchers at the front. In other cases I join BKs with my HH-equipped ASW-ship when there is no GB room open and I don't want to sit around waiting.

[Raguar]

I Saw guys Rushing with an 64knts Z99 and Sinking an Europe only with Hedgehogs. So They do round about 500 dmg per "shell" a lot of dmg. If u can carry them so why not using them??

[jimtheone]

I Saw guys Rushing with an 64knts Z99 and Sinking an Europe only with Hedgehogs. So They do round about 500 dmg per "shell" a lot of dmg. If u can carry them so why not using them??

Plus if u use prem HH thats 7 shells per gunslot, not many guns in bk can do that much dmg =\
No reason not to use it, its up to the ship user's choice.

[yifanwang99]

there's a down side to it.

If you use Premium HH you burn your wallet, FAST. If you use normal HH, you burn your in-game wallet. So it is not a sustainable weapon for surface-to-surface warfare.

[alekandr]

They do insane damage for what they are, and I've been known to rush a BB and spam the buttons, they do awesome damage.

However they shouldn't be limited, they aren't cheap and aren't free, if someone wants to use them in such a manner, let them. NF are the ones making the money out of this.

Some ships + 4/6 slots per side = 28-42 shots per 20 seconds at 500 damage each = 14k-21k damage per volley, lovely tactic, but not cheap.

[phantom3442]

learn to use torps instead

lol

learn to use your guns

[lunfa_reo]

I Saw guys Rushing with an 64knts Z99 and Sinking an Europe only with Hedgehogs.

Yeah, I know that guy...

[Paledan]

So I thought to myself what would it be better to ship with the Hedgehog is no longer generally no longer able Blitzkrieg!
But only in greatbattles.

I have a CL that is equipped with HH. I mostly use it as an escort in Great Battles, but from time to time I go to BK with it. I'm not going to take the HH away, load torpedo launchers, load torpedoes, fight the battle, remove the torp launchers, add HH launchers & ammo every time!

So if people want to use HH in BK, I'd say let them. I think it's a silly tactic myself. Consider the following:
- While you're adjusting range and bearing for your HH, you aren't firing your main guns.
- HH have a *slow* reload time (like two minutes) so after you've fired both sides you need to get back to the regular fight.

All in all, the time lost not firing your main guns (adjusting for HH, getting back to R slots, getting back to correct range and bearing - I assume you're using manual of course) means HH are useless. Ok, maybe a frigate or a small DD with practically no gun and a manual FCS will like the extra firepower boost, but it's essentially a one-shot deal.

Premium HH are dangerous, of course, but as yifanwang wrote they're really expensive and still probably not worth it compared to CL2 / CA gunnery. This means that even those players willing to buy themselves out of their tactical incompetence will be easy targets once you level up to a ship big enough not to be scared of that tactic.

[MobyDick]

Reduce damage of premium hedghogs to ships. These weapons are anti sub weapons and not anti ship weapons! Problem starts with eighter DDs that can suddenly do a lot more damage to ships than they could with normal guns or also with some CAs with slow reloading guns. They fire their primary guns and then have more than enough time to aim and shoot with their prem. hedghogs. This is not the way it should be.

[yifanwang99]

Reduce damage of premium hedghogs to ships. These weapons are anti sub weapons and not anti ship weapons! Problem starts with eighter DDs that can suddenly do a lot more damage to ships than they could with normal guns or also with some CAs with slow reloading guns. They fire their primary guns and then have more than enough time to aim and shoot with their prem. hedghogs. This is not the way it should be.

The thing is, only fools (or people with too much money) will use premium HH as a anti-ship weapon, it cost REAL LIFE money and, it cost A LOT of real life money (like 1 euro per battle, lol).

[MobyDick]

The thing is, only fools (or people with too much money) will use premium HH as a anti-ship weapon, it cost REAL LIFE money and, it cost A LOT of real life money (like 1 euro per battle, lol).

So it's even worse. It's a "I-win-Button" that not everyone can use but a few people who can (or want to) afford it.

[nemarsde]

No sir, in a Blitzkrieg it's definitely an "I lose button", since they're spending real money and everyone else is sharing their exp.