No smoke in HA Options

[xxxmariner]

Are you silly? I´ll pay´d for the damn smokes and you want to forbidden to use it.
Because the community want´s it. There are more then four fleets in the community
And I don´t need a ff or dd in HA

[fozzie]

Well, smokes are not forbidden during HA. You can still use them on frigates and destroyers.

[SeaWarLord]

For what i'm concerned the smokes would be banished at all.
Why you need smokes to play? I understand the smoke as a defensive manouver but using smokes to attack is the new kind of Bravery...

[elendil]

waste your last smokes in the exp-area than xD at least you'll get more then repair-cost as reward for them

[SeaWarLord]

Actually i never had to bought Smokes i think... The Christmas Event in each year supplies me with 50 smokes that last during all year, including HA... Now with DD and FF only using smokes in HA i think i can make this 50 smokes last at least 2 years...

[Biter]

Tactics?

By the way, have I missed something while I was away? Have smokes been restricted to FF and DD in HA via a Patch?

[Legi]

Why do you need smokes in habour assault?

actually as far as i heared more than 12 fleets are pro non-smoking HAs.
And it will give the ff&dd a nice tactical position in HA... wondering how much ppl will stick to them now instead of having some more aa ships.

i can also imagine killing the "small ones" is a main target in habourtile now

[SeaWarLord]

Why do you need smokes in habour assault?

actually as far as i heared more than 12 fleets are pro non-smoking HAs.
And it will give the ff&dd a nice tactical position in HA... wondering how much ppl will stick to them now instead of having some more aa ships.

i can also imagine killing the "small ones" is a main target in habourtile now

Thats what i'm talking about. I see the HA like the elite players of every fleet playing against, and there is so much tactic skill and sometimes luck involved that pushing a button to use a Smoke curtain ruins everyting. Now if a fleet whants to take a more useful ship to use a FF&DD that can provide smoke then i agree cause the risk may pay or not...

[PL_Lisiu]

WE DONT WANT TO LOSE OUR NFEU MEMBERS!

WE DONT WANT SMOKES IN HA

[nemarsde]

By the way, have I missed something while I was away? Have smokes been restricted to FF and DD in HA via a Patch?

No. That patch is due out this month.

https://twitter.com/NavyFieldEurope

[stamxx]

Are you silly? I´ll pay´d for the damn smokes and you want to forbidden to use it.
Because the community want´s it. There are more then four fleets in the community
And I don´t need a ff or dd in HA

have u ever done harbor attack or defense with so much smoke?

the only thing that the defenders and attackers cant do is to play!!


and LOL to Pl-LISIU

[stremitelnyj]

finally! gonna be so much better to play now! thx!









PS: in 2+ years never have bought a single smoke... events give u more than enough

[eevee911]

I feel sorry for the people in GB and blitzes now if they see me... Still need to get rid of my6k smokes now

[dragons]

I think its a good thing.
Small ships get much more important now.. fleets have to care about tactics and have to learn how to play.. the stupid "smoke -> rush" thingy will end.
And to be honest.. most players even failed with smokes because they always keep their line in a smoke and it is easy to kill them anyway.
The lag issue in HAs might be reduced...
Low lvl players get a more important role in a HA..
Many players might have more fun again because they dont need to install foglights on their ships ^^

But well, Im used to the fact that there is always someone whining about a patch.. you can never make everyone happy and many ppl here need to whine to be happy maybe?
What about trying it before you complain? Maybe you like it?

All in all I think its a good thing.. and bringing my good old argument: Wonder how we managed to play HAs years ago when there was no smoke available at all... guess what? It worked!

[Alex_Von_Ho]

Old school HA was better before smoke bomb was introduced

[Thanok]

Are you silly? I´ll pay´d for the damn smokes and you want to forbidden to use it.
Because the community want´s it. There are more then four fleets in the community
And I don´t need a ff or dd in HA

The big fleets dont nedd them eitehr. Thats why they voted for Smokefree HAs. The Community makes the rules, if they want all ships to be pink TNF/SDE has to make them pink, because if the majority of the community (and if you have a look at the suggestion for smoke free HAs youll see that its a huge majority) is happy they will still pay for NF.

[yanotoshi]

The big fleets dont nedd them eitehr.

Fail! Small fleets don't play much HA and I guess, that coordinate smoking is not very common in small fleets.

The Community makes the rules, if they want all ships to be pink TNF/SDE has to make them pink

Fail! It might be nice in some cases but at all I am glad that it isn't like that.

[BrainStormXX]

Yeah... i think the "big fleets" will like this Patch so much. They are sitting in a Harbor and only must waiting who is comming.

Sure... you can smoke... but only of cost of the AA Ships and Sups.
But... i played very much HA´s on both sides... and never had a problem with a Smoking enemy.
That the Lag sittuation will be getting better cant be right... the HA´s only using 5% from the Server... thats what always TNF said ( not so sure may be 10% )

The smaller ( not the small!!! ) Fleets are now in the Situation, that they must do attack a Harbour and the defending side will see him all the time.
They only drive slowly back and shoot on everything that moves.

Now... just tell me the new Taktik to get the range and the overpowerd small BB´s to get close to the enemy without getting sunk


Sure... i had a small idea, how to handle this situation, but i think many fleets dont have it.
So a HA would be a thing, they dont can handle... so this is something they dont can Train and even they are not getting better... and many players Like to play HA.
So... the question is: What would be the worst situation... loosing players, because they cant play a good HA with their Fleet, loosing players, because they hate that nooby Smokers ( and many players dont correct their course under a smoke... so easy to hit ) or the HA interested players going to the Big fleets and make them always stronger.

This is absoultly whining.... but thing about the points

and sry for my english... isn´t so good... i know

[Angelsky]

Ahhh Beta days... Didn't have None of these funny addons.

[nemarsde]

Imho smoke bombs don't favour either large fleets or small fleets in HA. They favour the fleet that uses them over the fleet that doesn't. If every player on each team in a battle uses smoke bombs it simply puts the outcome on hiatus and/or results in a more random outcome, it doesn't add any value to the gameplay.

By restricting smoke bombs to FF/DD classes, you add a strategic and tactical element to the gameplay.